Clarice Lispector has an unprecedented interview published in the ‘New Yorker’ magazine

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Conversation with Afonso Romano de Sant’anna, Marina Colasanti and João Salgueiro was recorded in 1976 and never published. Portrait of Clarice Lispector, authorship unknown, undated. Clarice Lispector Collection/IMS An unprecedented interview by the writer Clarice Lispector was released by the American magazine “New Yorker”, this Monday (13). The conversation was recorded only in audio in October 1976, fourteen months before her death in December 1977. The conversation with her was made by the writers Marina Colasanti and Affonso Romano de Sant’Anna and João Salgueiro, at the time director of the Museum of Image and Sound, in Rio de Janeiro. In the interview published for the first time, Clarice spoke about: 👶 The family’s arrival in Brazil Clarice said that her parents stopped in a village in Ukraine, during an escape, for her to be born. “I arrived in Brazil when I was two months old. Calling myself a foreigner is silly.” Clarice Lispector Disclosure / Rocco 🗣️ Accent Sant’anna says people confuse her with a foreigner because of her accent. she retorts. “It’s because of the ‘R’. They think it’s an accent, but it’s not. It’s tongue-tied,” she said. “I could cut it, but, they say, it’s a very humid place, it hardly heals.” 👧 Poor childhood The writer also said that she was not aware that she was poor. “Not long ago, I asked Elisa, my older sister, if we ever went hungry. She said ‘almost’. Because there was, in Recife, in a square, a man who sold an orangeade in which the orange had far gone, all watery, and a piece of bread. That was our lunch.” 📚 First stories As soon as she learned to read, she said she “devoured” the books. She also told of the first stories she wrote. The texts were sent to the newspaper “Diário de Pernambuco”, to the children’s section published on Thursdays. “I got tired of submitting my stories, but they never published them, and I knew why. Because the others started like this: ‘Once upon a time, etc, etc.’ And mine were sensations.” 📰 Works in the newspapers Clarice work in the newspapers “A Noite” and “Diário da Tarde” and in the magazine “Senhor”. “I’m shy and bold. I’m shy, but I launch myself”, she said in an excerpt in which she told about her first publication in the magazine “Let’s Read!”, when she was about 15 years old. 📖 Literary production The writer spoke about her production, such as the first book, “Close to the wild heart”, and “The besieged city”, which she considered her densest book. She also spoke about the translations of her works and how she handles her published texts. “I don’t reread it. It makes me sick. When it’s published, it’s like a dead book. I don’t want to hear about it anymore,” she said. “I read, I think it’s weird, I think it’s bad, and that’s why I don’t read. I also don’t read the translations they make of my books so I don’t get annoyed.” Interview in the ‘New Yorker’ The report published by the “New Yorker”, with the title “A Lost Interview with Clarice Lispector”, is signed Benjamin Moser, who is also the author of the biography “Clarice,”. He said, in the text, that he arrived at the interview after talking to Clarice’s sister, Tânia Lispector Kaufmann. Clarice Lispector in an interview with Julio Lerner, in 1977 Reproduction/YouTube/Penguin Moser said he was talking to Tânia about an interview sent to him in 2006 by Julio Lerner. According to the writer, Lerner made the recording, the only one on video, a few months before Clarice died, in 1977. The writer’s sister then commented that she did not like the interview, since Clarice appeared tired and close to death. The video is available on YouTube.

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